Vertex Poll

Kitten Nuggets · Trick Member Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Location: San Diego

What does the complicatedness of Summer have to do with how hard Vertex is?
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Darkicarus · Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:37 am Post subject:

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Boochypa · Trick Member Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: VA Tech

Yes, we are talking about the same Summer.

I can't pass the song either, but what does that have to do with how complicated it is? Straight 16th runs are probably the least complicated thing you could put in a stepchart.
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Kitten Nuggets · Trick Member Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Location: San Diego

It's hopeless Cory
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IHYD.Blake · Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject:

Seriously.

Cory, you need 112 more poll threads for all the other songs on expert mode. After we get all of those locked, we can start in with hard mode.

Do Charlene next.

EDIT: Back on topic of the offtopic topic we are talking about in this here thread, Summer in Belieze is more complicated than Summer SM.

And, nobody called Summer in Belieze "Summer." Most people do call Summer Speedy Mix "Summer."
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Kitten Nuggets · Trick Member Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Location: San Diego

IHYD.Blake · Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:10 am Post subject:

You and Cory are always yelling at me for using the wrong words.

Most people that I have ever talked to usually dont call SIB Summer.
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J. S. Mill · Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:16 am Post subject:

IHYD.Blake · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject:

Dangit, wrong words again.

Told me
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runwithscizzors9 · Trick Member Joined: 06 Feb 2005

i passed Vertex for the first time today, and i still can't pass PSMO, The Beginning, Mythology

Zeta Aspect · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject:

I think we should all return to the issue at hand.

VerTex Expert is not really as hard as other 12s, but it seems to be harder than Infection (11). VerTex is MUCH harder to read, has much longer streams, and generally takes more stamina. While you may not agree on my comparison, it is a valid point.
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Boochypa · Trick Member Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: VA Tech

Tension and Disconnected Hyper are also harder than Infection, so no, it isn't a valid point.
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Zeta Aspect · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject:

TouchÃ©.
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject:

Ok, if you admit that Tension and Disconnected Hyper is harder than Infection and almost everyone agress Infection is an 11 (764 steps, about 100 more than any ten. like 250 or something mines. 16th streams at 170BPM) then why is it that eveyone disagrees with me that Tension and Disconnected Hyper should be 11's?

If they're harder than an 11(Infection in case you forgot) that is more tiring, more mine filled, and faster than Utopia, Charlene, and Xuxa, then why shouldn't they be 11's themselves?

Oh yeah, to stay on task, Vertex is easy. It's not all that much harder than Infection, but it is a little harder due to stamina.
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Summer is as much of a 12 as PSMO is a 9.

Zeta Aspect · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject:

I personally think Tension deserved to be an 11.
Disconnected Hyper is quite easy up until the end, at which point it becomes evil...EVIL!!! However, it is so unbalanced that players can retain enough stamina to pull off that ending. I know it's faster than any of the 11s (at least on ITG for PS2), but it is just so easy for 80% of the song. Infection is a different type of hard in this respect.
What I am trying to say is that it depends on the player. I am not contradicting myself, however much it may seem like it. I could see Infection as harder under the circumstances, but I would prefer to agree with boochypa that my point is not as valid as I had originally thought.
However, I stand by my claim that VerTex is a 12. I agree with Tyrgannus that Infection is not nearly the easiest 11. I do not disagree with boochypa that Tension and Disconnected Hyper could be viewed as harder than Infection. However, I should point out that just because Disconnected Hyper and Tension are underrated doesn't mean Infection is overrated for everyone.

This post is going to get shot down. I can feel it. Oh well.
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Boochypa · Trick Member Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: VA Tech

The point I was trying to make is that ratings vary by individual.

I have a 96 on Infection but can only manage around 91 on Tension and Disconnected Hyper. That's just because of my playing style, though, since those songs are particularly nasty without the bar.

I don't personally have any trouble with mines or BPM changes, but enough people do (especially when the game first came out and no one knew how to read mines yet) to warrant making Vertex a 12. I DO personally have a lot of trouble with really fast streams and jumps, but most people don't, so those songs are rated 10s.
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J. S. Mill · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:47 am Post subject:

It might be somewhat worth noting that ITG intends its ratings to overlap, so the hardest ten is supposed to be harder then the easiest eleven, etc.
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Zeta Aspect · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: