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Maxx 999 Trick Member


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0. Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject: DDR Machines in Arcades |
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i forgot where the hell i read it but it was here. is it true that arcades arent allowed to have import japanese ddr machines? or something about not being able to make profit off them. if theres a link to help me can some one post it and then lock this? thank you. _________________
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Daniel Trick Member

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1. Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Arcades are not allowed to have imported machines without special permission from the manufactuer. But not only do most arcades have import machines without special permission, most DDR mixes found in arcades are made with bootleg discs. The entire DDR series uses Playstation 1 based hardware that has been hacked by pirates flawlessly by now.
The reason why this sort of rampant illegal importing and piracy exists is because Konami refuses to create American DDR mixes. DDR USA was a failure due to the fact that Konami didn't want to comit to the budget that would allow a US mix with a non mediocre songlist. Ever since DDR USA Konami gave up on the US arcade scene. Konami allowed DDR Japenese mixes to be imported and pirated so that the US DDR scene wouldn't die, and they could sell sub par home mixes that carry the same names as their arcade counterparts, but have entirely different content. |
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2. Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Damn my perspective on Konami has changed now. _________________
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Agent J Trick Member


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3. Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed, if you want to get right down to it, I don't think any of the DDR machines in American arcades are technically legal. Most of them are probably bootlegs, which are illegal but no one cares. Authentic Japanese machines are illegal, it's stated in a long legalese statement usually saying something about, "Warning: This game is not for sale or use in any country outside of Japan. Violators will be subject to penalties and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law." American games have it, too. Just replace "Japan" in that statement with the United States or Europe or wherever. And in the case of US 1st Mix or DDR USA, Andamiro's American branch won a lawsuit against Konami in the late 90s that resulted in Andamiro's Pump It Up being the only legal American dance game. I think that decision may have been overturned, though. |
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4. Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Kunio573 wrote: | Indeed, if you want to get right down to it, I don't think any of the DDR machines in American arcades are technically legal. Most of them are probably bootlegs, which are illegal but no one cares. |
Dude, lots of machines are legal. All DDR US mixes are legal, and all US Disney Mixes are legal.
I care about bootlegs! They ruin awesome machines. Megamix, anyone? Usually, they crash a lot, and they don't have much extra. Repairing them is generally very hard or impossible. _________________
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Joined: 17 Jan 2002 Location: Denver |
5. Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Daniel wrote: | Arcades are not allowed to have imported machines without special permission from the manufactuer. But not only do most arcades have import machines without special permission, most DDR mixes found in arcades are made with bootleg discs. The entire DDR series uses Playstation 1 based hardware that has been hacked by pirates flawlessly by now.
The reason why this sort of rampant illegal importing and piracy exists is because Konami refuses to create American DDR mixes. DDR USA was a failure due to the fact that Konami didn't want to comit to the budget that would allow a US mix with a non mediocre songlist. Ever since DDR USA Konami gave up on the US arcade scene. Konami allowed DDR Japenese mixes to be imported and pirated so that the US DDR scene wouldn't die, and they could sell sub par home mixes that carry the same names as their arcade counterparts, but have entirely different content. |
Care to provide facts to go along with your propoganda?
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Thomas Hobbes Trick Member


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6. Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Erm, they made DDR USA and I believe DDR 1.5 for the American DDR Arcade "scene". However, I believe they closed their American Arcade Section of their company so that to keep up with the DDR fever, arcade owners started to import Japanese games. That's why all of the games say that they are meant for Japan. That is the reason why you have to have a Japanese Link Data to save records on the mixes because Konami is going to ignore that the US actually have those machines. _________________
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7. Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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GR wrote: | Kunio573 wrote: | Indeed, if you want to get right down to it, I don't think any of the DDR machines in American arcades are technically legal. Most of them are probably bootlegs, which are illegal but no one cares. |
Dude, lots of machines are legal. All DDR US mixes are legal, and all US Disney Mixes are legal.
I care about bootlegs! They ruin awesome machines. Megamix, anyone? Usually, they crash a lot, and they don't have much extra. Repairing them is generally very hard or impossible. |
Legit machines are damn hard to find nowaday's, mainly due to the fact that the game isn't made anymore.
DDR was originally imported mainly due to NAMCO. back in the day, Namco could buy in bulk from distributors (Main reason why konami wont sell to distributors in japan) for about $1500 a piece (japanese and korean). They would have bought DDR USA, but it was the price of a brand new IIDX 11: RED machine direct from konami. _________________
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8. Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:52 am Post subject: |
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Bootleg doesn't just mean Megamix or Extreme 1.5 etc etc, it also means a burned copy of DDR Extreme, DDR 3rd mix... whatever. _________________
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