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videoCWK
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40.  Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Chart, definitely. For me, a song can be any amount of bad or good and I'll blay it as long as it has a good chart. An example of this is CSFILSM double, which has one of my favorite double charts though I don't like the song that much. Then there's Burning Heat, which is a great song though I never play it because it has a boring double chart (I rarely play single anymore)
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| 41. Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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definitely song, i only pick the songs that i like, but i guess i should try some other songs to try the stepcharts too ionno but the song is my deciding factor
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| 42. Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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For me, the chart definately and by chart I mean 9 and over. I don't understand how people can stand playing 6s or 7s. If you like the song so much, just download it.
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| 43. Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: |
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I don't have a preference, to be honest. The way both parts come together determines how well I like playing a DDR song. If a song has a great stepchart, yet I don't like the song itself very much, I won't play it very much (Xepher, DoLL). If I think the song is great, but I don't like the chart, I won't play it very much (Gentle Stress (AMD Sexual Mix), AM-3P, No. 13). I tend to play DDR primarily for that cohesive experience of playing an interesting chart to a good song.
Another good example is the supposedly common situation of people preferring to play MAX300, yet musically prefer Fascination MAXX. I'd say both songs have a good sound and stepchart to them, thus I don't mind playing either song.
But in the end, I would rather play MAX300 more often, too, but only because I can actually enjoy the experience better and cannot keep up with Fascination MAXX's stepchart as consistently, so I would prefer using MAX300 to condition myself with footspeed in hopes of being equally capable to appreciate Fascination MAXX. From looking at both charts and having a very easy time CCRing them, if I was capable of playing both songs with considerable ease with feet, I would much rather play Fascination MAXX, because while I think it's also an interesting chart with acceptable music like MAX300, I feel its stepchart associates better with the music.
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| 44. Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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There's no musical dimension to Faxx, I don't know why people would like listening to it.
The chart is "ok", but it really doesn't do anything for me. The only reason I see to play it is to boost my tech ability. |
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| 45. Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| Tim! wrote: |
Specifically, I'd rather have AC DDR Originals and Dancemania over some weeaboo baits *coughAngeluscoughTrustcoughBaby'sTearsfromSkyGirlscough* (fyi: DDR has officially been weeaboofied, as of SN2 AC JP, and to add insult to injury, DDR has officially lost BeForU for good) |
lolwut?
You realise that the North American release shares the same songlist as the Japanese and European releases, right?
And that DDR has been aimed strongly at euro enthusiasts since 3rd mix, right?
And that Angelus is just samba-funk in Japanese, right?
And that if anything, the hundreds of American songs on DDR diminish the validity of it's native culture, right?
DID I MENTION THAT DDR COMES FROM JAPAN?
Seriously, get the fuck out of my DDR. SuperNOVA2 is the most Americanised mix yet.
EDIT: Just to see what I personally thought of SuperNOVA2, I grabbed 31 random SN2 mp3's, listened to all of them, and rated all of them individually. The average rating I gave was 4.36. The American liscenses are good, the euro licenses are great, the jap licenses are good, the originals are good, the IIDX and Pop'n stuff is good; all that I didn't really like was Paranoia Hades. It's just another Paranoia, but with a little more cancer.
N8, as a pianist, I have to argue otherwise. FaxX has a beautifully intricate piano backbeat. It's certainly overshadowed by an excess of non-musical noises, but if you listen to the piano over the rest of the song, both the music and the chart are far less absurd.
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| 46. Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Pfff.. Most of the stepcharts for DDR suck (well, a lot of them are really good, too).
DDR has cooler songs than ITG definitely.
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| 47. Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| DancingTofu(SMC) wrote: | | Tim! wrote: |
Specifically, I'd rather have AC DDR Originals and Dancemania over some weeaboo baits *coughAngeluscoughTrustcoughBaby'sTearsfromSkyGirlscough* (fyi: DDR has officially been weeaboofied, as of SN2 AC JP, and to add insult to injury, DDR has officially lost BeForU for good) |
lolwut? |
Well, as for BeForU, I regard them as a DDR Primary, just like how most Bemaniheads regard of Mutsuhiko Izumi as a GFdm primary, or dj. TAKA as a IIDX primary.
| Quote: | | You realise that the North American release shares the same songlist as the Japanese and European releases, right? |
But it's currently unknown if it's the *exact* song list.
| Quote: | | And that DDR has been aimed strongly at euro enthusiasts since 3rd mix, right? |
Yes, but the lack of the Euro classics that DDR introduced to us have a long shot to come back. Yes, I miss the days when I whored an entire session's worth on E-Rotic songs.
| Quote: | | And that Angelus is just samba-funk in Japanese, right? |
Not to those Inuyasha otakus. <_<
| Quote: | | And that if anything, the hundreds of American songs on DDR diminish the validity of it's native culture, right? |
That's been the problem, since localization means breaking the arcade faith.
| Quote: | | DID I MENTION THAT DDR COMES FROM JAPAN? |
But that's no excuse to weeaboofy DDR (read: replacing BeForU with avex licenses, found in the likes of Inuyasha).
| Quote: | | Seriously, get the fuck out of my DDR. SuperNOVA2 is the most Americanised mix yet. |
Konami's just being a cheap ass, and this [SN2 AC] is their most glaring example yet.
| Quote: | | It's just another Paranoia, but with a little more cancer. |
Easy there, boy. It's jun's first attempt to remix a DDR classic.
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| 48. Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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The reason why is because at the arcades I play at I can almost never hear the music because the volume is turn down so much. That makes the stepcharts the only influence for me in choosing a song. But when I play at home I can turn the music up so I can actually hear it so music makes more of a difference there. |
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ChilliumBromide
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| 49. Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| Tim! wrote: | | [a lot of stuff] |
You didn't mention that they were replace all their BeForU with AIDS. I figured they were just losing BeForU, and would fill the gaps with Taka, Naoki, Jun, Mr. T, etc.; I wouldn't complain about that; BeForU has become too much J-Pop and too little neotrance for me lately.
Also, for the record, I refuse to get a AAA on any arcade machine until they re-acquire a license for Sandstorm and put it on an arcade mix. They've gotten me halfway by getting The Shining Polaris on SuperNOVA, but they have to follow through.
The real problem with DDR is that there's no diversity any more. It's all Extreme, SN, USA, and an occasional Max2 or Solo cab. If they didn't make it so hard to downgrade a cabinet, the arcade DDR scene would be waaaaay more active.
Oh wait, I should stop threadjacking. 
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| 50. Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| DancingTofu(SMC) wrote: | | Tim! wrote: | | [a lot of stuff] |
You didn't mention that they were replace all their BeForU with AIDS. I figured they were just losing BeForU, and would fill the gaps with Taka, Naoki, Jun, Mr. T, etc.; I wouldn't complain about that; BeForU has become too much J-Pop and too little neotrance for me lately.
Also, for the record, I refuse to get a AAA on any arcade machine until they re-acquire a license for Sandstorm and put it on an arcade mix. They've gotten me halfway by getting The Shining Polaris on SuperNOVA, but they have to follow through.
The real problem with DDR is that there's no diversity any more. It's all Extreme, SN, USA, and an occasional Max2 or Solo cab. If they didn't make it so hard to downgrade a cabinet, the arcade DDR scene would be waaaaay more active.
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they shound never relicence sandstorm, EVER.
also, the only good BeForU songs are breakdown and kiseki....which are both in SN. And in case you didnt know, BeForU is horribly untalented....even for an asian girl pop group!
proof?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LYELlQbbxUU
if you think that sounded good...what THE frick IS WRONG WITH YOU!!
im also pretty sure they lip sync.
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| 51. Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Song. I bought MAX2 just for Burning Heat and Extreme2 just for Twinbee. |
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B4ULoveShine
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| 52. Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| _jpoppyz_ wrote: | | Also, for the record, I refuse to get a AAA on any arcade machine until they re-acquire a license for Sandstorm and put it on an arcade mix. They've gotten me halfway by getting The Shining Polaris on SuperNOVA, but they have to follow through. |
| Quote: | | they shound never relicence sandstorm, EVER. |
Personally, I'm not a fan of Sandstorm, either. I just hope it would stay as a USCS-exclusive.
It's because they started their Bemani careers as vocalists. Although, Konami made a push for a Riyu Kosaka solo.
| DancingTofu(SMC) wrote: | | Tim! wrote: | | [a lot of stuff] |
You didn't mention that they were replace all their BeForU with WEEABOO BAITS. I figured they were just losing BeForU, and would fill the gaps with Taka, Naoki, Jun, Mr. T, etc.; I wouldn't complain about that. |
Fixed.
IIDXers/pop'pers will bitch, whine, moan, and groan, "OMG! DDR STOLE AWAY (insert IIDX/pop'n music primary artist)!"
For your information, IIDX and pop'n have been hogging the Bemani roster for almost ten years now.  Of course, this leaves DDR so understaffed, to the point Naoki Maeda has been/still is the most-overworked-Bemani-composer-to-death.
Let me ask you something: When was the last time Mutsuhiko Izumi ever composed an AC DDR Original? Never. wac? Never. TaQ? Never. Akira Yamaoka? Not yet. Cosmos? Never. You get the picture now, right?
| Quote: | | BeForU has become too much J-Pop and too little neotrance for me lately. |
It's because they impressed, then, sold themselves out to Avex, so to speak.
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